Why She’s Pissed Off & Turned Off—and How to Fix It | This Masculine Blueprint Is Helping Men End Porn Addiction and Save Their Marriages
- Jake Kastleman
- May 20
- 41 min read
If your wife seems pissed off and turned off—constantly irritated, emotionally distant, and disinterested in sex—you’re not alone. For many men, this emotional tension fuels the desire to escape into porn. But what if the real issue isn’t her moods... but your missing leadership and emotional disengagement?
In this episode, I’m joined by men’s coach and author GS Youngblood to help you fix your relationship, overcome porn addiction, and become the grounded, trusted man your partner longs for.
You’ll learn how GS’s Masculine Blueprint helps men quit porn by reclaiming their presence, healing emotional wounds, and re-establishing emotional safety and sexual polarity in their marriages. This isn't about control or being a "tough guy"—it’s about rising above Nice Guy syndrome and stepping into calm, clear masculine leadership and love.
Whether you're trying to save your marriage, overcome porn addiction, or feel like a man again, this conversation offers a roadmap to real change.
In this episode, we talk about:
Why she’s pissed off and turned off—and how you can fix it
How emotional disconnection and "Nice Guy syndrome" sabotage intimacy
The key role of emotional safety in rekindling desire
What sexual polarity really means—and why it’s fading from your marriage
How to lead with clarity, not control
Why quitting porn starts with reclaiming your masculine core
If you're ready to fix your relationship, quit porn, and build a partnership filled with connection and trust—this episode is your starting point.
The Masculine Blueprint: A New Paradigm for Men in Recovery
In today's culture, masculinity is often misunderstood or mislabeled as "toxic". GS Youngblood offers a clear and powerful alternative: a modern masculine model rooted in groundedness, clarity, and relational presence. At the heart of his message lies what he calls the "Masculine Blueprint," a framework that consists of three key pillars:
Respond vs. React
Provide Structure
Create Safety
These three concepts don’t just create a better relationship—they build a better man. They are deeply relevant to men in recovery from porn addiction, because addiction often thrives in the absence of grounded leadership, emotional mastery, and true intimacy. Let’s break each of these key pillars down.
Respond vs. React: Embodiment as the Antidote to Escapism
One of the most common traits among men struggling with addiction is reactivity. When anxiety or discomfort hits, the instinct is to escape—into porn, anger, work, the phone, or emotional shutdown. GS frames the solution not in terms of external control, but in the internal power of embodiment.
Embodiment is the practice of shifting your awareness from your racing mind into the physical sensations of your body. Why does this matter? Because the body lives in the present moment, whereas thought lives in the past and future. When you tune into your breath, your posture, your center, or your gut, you reclaim access to a deeper form of knowing. From here, you can make wiser, more mature and more loving decisions.
GS teaches men that when you ground your nervous system daily through embodiment practices, you gain what he calls "spaciousness." This allows you to feel anger, fear, hurt—but not be hijacked by them. You shift from reactive behavior to intentional presence. This presence, in turn, gives you the capacity to respond with strength and clarity rather than self-protective shutdown or addiction.
For men in recovery, this is critical. Porn use is often just a maladaptive reaction to internal tension, loneliness, or unresolved grief. With embodiment, you learn to sit with those feelings—to feel them without fleeing.
Masculinity and Porn Addiction: Understanding the Hidden Link
GS highlights a critical insight that many men overlook: porn addiction is often not just about lust or sexuality—it's about anxiety and emotional avoidance.
When a man feels disconnected from purpose, unsupported in his relationship, or chronically anxious, he will reach for whatever gives momentary relief. For millions, that relief is porn.
But it’s not the real solution. It's a counterfeit connection, a hollow escape. The real issue is internal disconnection—from yourself, your values, your truth, your power. The Masculine Blueprint offers a roadmap back to integrity and alignment, where porn becomes unnecessary because your needs are being met at a deeper level.
This perspective doesn’t shame men for using porn. Instead, it compassionately reveals why they do, and what healing actually looks like.
Stop Being a Nice Guy: Why Pleasing Kills Polarity
Another major topic GS tackles is the difference between kindness and Nice Guy Syndrome. While kindness is rooted in strength and empathy, Nice Guy Syndrome is rooted in fear, approval-seeking, and self-erasure.
The Nice Guy constantly scans for what others want so he can avoid conflict and be liked. He gives away his power and resents his partner for taking it. Over time, this behavior kills sexual polarity. His partner no longer feels the presence of a man who knows himself and his values.
The antidote is internal alignment: a man who validates his own needs and opinions, and shares them with love and confidence. This kind of presence creates attraction, not tension, as long as it is done with attunement to his partner's needs as well. And I will add that consistently being curious and asking questions to understand what your partner wants is a crucial part of this.
Finding Inner Clarity: How to Reclaim Your Center
For men addicted to porn, confused in their relationship, or unclear about what they want, GS offers a deeply practical insight: you don’t need to go find clarity; you need to remove what’s blocking it.
The biggest block? Fear and anxiety.
When a man clears his nervous system and affirms that his needs do matter, inner clarity begins to grow. It’s not about figuring it all out overnight. It’s about noticing what you feel, what you value, and what you’re drawn to when fear is no longer in the driver’s seat.
This clarity becomes the compass for how you show up in your relationship, your recovery, and your mission in life. And I will add that becoming aware of and accepting your fear, so it can move through you rather than control you, brings you more in tune with God, so that you can hear His voice of love and wisdom within.
Emotional Mindfulness: Feel It First, Fix It Later
One of the most practical and transformational takeaways from GS's philosophy is this:
"Feelings first, facts later."
Men are conditioned to fix, to explain, to avoid discomfort. But real emotional maturity comes from being able to feel fully without falling apart. To name what hurts. To sit in the fire of shame, grief, or fear—and stay present.
This doesn’t make you weak. It makes you powerful.
GS encourages men to practice the art of brief but honest emotional expression: "That hurt me. I can bear it. But I need you to know." This simple but masculine approach to emotional sharing builds connection without overexposing.
In porn recovery, this is huge. Emotional suppression fuels relapse. Emotional honesty fuels healing.
Polarity and Partnership: Masculine-Feminine Dynamics That Work
GS clarifies that masculine and feminine are not rigid gender roles, but energetic polarities. Relationships thrive when these polarities are in play: one person leads, the other follows. One provides direction, the other brings flow.
In intimate dynamics, if the man isn’t bringing any grounded masculine leadership, the feminine partner may feel forced to step into that role. This often leads to resentment, criticism, and a shutdown of sexual energy.
Both men and women hold differing degrees of masculine and feminine energy, and this varies from one individual to another. A healthy relationship requires partners to act on these energies in balanced ways that foster structure and create emotional safety.
GS teaches that restoring polarity starts with YOU. Start leading. Start feeling. Start offering direction. It doesn’t mean controlling your partner. It means co-creating a safe space where each of you can flourish in your natural essence.
From Shame to Self-Worth: Healing the Core Belief
Every man in recovery must confront one question: Do I believe I am fundamentally good?
GS shares his own story of realizing how much of his dysfunction came from unconscious shame. The kind that whispers, "You're not enough. You're weak. You don't matter." For many men, porn becomes a way to numb that shame.
But healing requires facing it. Feeling it. And most importantly, replacing it with a new truth: I am good. I am human. I matter.
This shift doesn’t happen in one moment. It happens through consistent inner work, reflection, spiritual anchoring, and surrounding yourself with people and practices that affirm your goodness.
As GS says, your shame might still whisper. But your truth can speak louder.
Episode 97 Transcription: Why She’s Pissed Off & Turned Off—and How to Fix It | This Masculine Blueprint Is Helping Men End Porn Addiction and Save Their Marriages
Jake Kastleman (00:01.427)
GS, welcome my friend. It's awesome to have you here. I gotta tell you, I was so inspired by the first chapter I read in your book. We were talking before this. I'm very excited to read the rest. I gotta purchase the audio book and get going, but very important messages you're sharing with man, man and all the work you're doing. And so just privileged to have you here.
GS Youngblood (00:14.03)
Mm-hmm.
GS Youngblood (00:22.166)
Yeah, Jake, thanks for having me on. been looking forward to this discussion and I'm glad you have been liking the book and I look forward to hearing more of your comments as you get through it.
Jake Kastleman (00:32.011)
100%, 100%. Well, first off for people who don't know you, GS, just tell people what your message is, what your focus is, what you help men do and the importance of that.
GS Youngblood (00:44.48)
Yeah, I'm helping men fix their relationship by stepping into more of what I call their masculine core or embodying this thing that I've written about in my book called the masculine blueprint. And based on my own personal experience, I've got a long story that it sits behind all the work that I do now. But men are experiencing a lot of the same problems. And they don't realize that a lot of them are tied back to the
to a lack of their own leadership in the relationship. And so what I teach men is this, I call it relational masculinity. And it's about how to be grounded within yourself and more relational with your intimate partner. And that's a unique combination. A lot of men's work doesn't always focus on the relational aspects enough, so I wanted to put more emphasis and give men more tools in that area as well. I don't care how masculine you think you are, you get into relationship and if you're not relational with your woman,
It's not going to go well.
Jake Kastleman (01:43.51)
Well, and what you said is one of the things that occurs to me and that I found very telling and very inspiring. And what I was reading from your material on your site, your book is this concept that I think when we say masculinity, there is these days, unfortunately, a very negative connotation with it. It's like controlling, overbearing, angry, aggressive. It's like, don't do all that stuff.
GS Youngblood (02:09.794)
mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (02:11.835)
And I love that you specify the difference in the masculinity you're talking about, which is a mature masculinity versus what might be seen typically with it. Can you talk a bit about that and what the difference is to you?
GS Youngblood (02:19.672)
Mm-mm.
GS Youngblood (02:26.53)
Yeah, you're right. We unfortunately we kind of lump everything into one bucket and that bucket that you're talking about is toxic masculinity and you know, it's kind of It's kind of like immigration. There's there's legal immigration, which is good. It's great for our country There's illegal immigration which we want to make sure that doesn't happen It's you got to be specific about what part of that bigger topic that you're talking about and when you when you lump them together then something big gets lost and Yeah, a lot of people hear masculinity
Jake Kastleman (02:34.635)
Mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (02:44.459)
You
GS Youngblood (02:55.468)
and they translate that into toxic masculinity. it's just, it's not true. What I set out to write about and create was this, was a model of masculinity that works in the modern world, in the post-MeToo world, without being watered down. And so that's where the masculine blueprint came from. And it's my offering to the world of like, this is what I think masculine means. And any man that embodies the three primary elements of this blueprint that I talk about.
anybody that embodies those will be living more from their masculine. I'll pause there so you can comment, Jake, but we should probably go into what is the masculine blueprint, because it answers the question of what is masculinity?
Jake Kastleman (03:39.148)
yeah, we're gonna talk all about it. And one thing I wanna ask before we dive into that blueprint, which is very insightful. think just the three concepts are insightful in and of themselves. But I wondered if you could touch on generally kind of in your view. And I know you're not an expert on porn addiction specifically, but I think you understand relationship issues very well and some of the things that can feed into addiction, et cetera.
kind of taking this lens of healthy masculinity, this concept of getting in touch with our masculine core, what are men facing today, maybe in particular, that's feeding into these, a lot of these emotional roots that contribute to addiction.
GS Youngblood (04:23.854)
Yeah, a lot of men these days we feel anxious about many things. Money and love and the state of the world and loneliness and all of these things would become much more of a fragmented lonely society. And so men are looking for a salve to feel better within themselves and about themselves. And when you feel lonely, when you feel alienated, when you don't feel fulfilled in your purpose,
It creates an anxiety in you and you know, the porn is just one of many choices for men to try to salve that anxiety and a lot of the I this is this is the first part of the blueprint which is about getting more grounded a lot of the work that I do with men is Using embodiment exercises which helps them really start to settle and ground their nervous system And so that gnawing feeling that you want to make stop through through an addiction
you can actually learn to be with that feeling and settle it within yourself without the need for these external, whether it be dopamine hits or sexual, know, feeding your sexuality or anything like that. So that's a big part of the foundation of all the work that I do is getting you more grounded. And then that leads into being able to make better choices around your masculinity, but also better choices around your addictions.
Jake Kastleman (05:44.172)
Let's dig right into that. Cause I think probably the concept you're talking about and you're the expert on this, but I assume it's the respond versus react kind of concept. And this concept of embodiment has been incredibly powerful for me. It's actually something I'm only digging into in the last year. You and I had a previous conversation where I talked about how I've been doing Wim Hof breathing every day for about a little over a year now and really trying to bring
GS Youngblood (05:52.792)
Yeah. Yeah.
GS Youngblood (06:12.302)
you
Jake Kastleman (06:14.571)
presence into my life that self-awareness that Kind of inner and being a witness internally and emotions and thoughts This is something something again that I think there is so much profundity to and so much potential in my life And if you can talk about what what's the power of that? maybe what have you seen personally for you or that men are able to develop and
For those who don't know what embodiment is, probably touching on exactly what it is.
GS Youngblood (06:46.38)
Yeah, let me answer your question by just introducing the first element of this masculine blueprint, is in my book. The first element, as you've already said, is respond versus react. And so for the listeners, this is the quality of a man that's got a certain stillness to him. And there's the spaciousness inside of him, whereas using your word, Jake, where he can witness.
Jake Kastleman (06:53.695)
Mm-hmm.
GS Youngblood (07:10.584)
who he is, how he's being moment to moment to moment. And then within that space of being able to witness how you're being, how the world is operating, you can make choice about what you want to do next. And I think it's that choicefulness that is one of the most powerful outcomes of grounding your nervous system. You're not driven by anxiety or habituation or your wounding anymore. You're driven and acting out of your intention.
who you want to be moment to moment. So that's one of the most powerful things about it. The problem is most of us have a lot of childhood wounding. We have our fears, we have our insecurities, and as I said before, that creates an anxiety within you. And then we operate out of that anxiety. Everything we do when we're anxious is generally to relieve the discomfort of that anxiety. And so that's why, like for instance, men get defensive because it's too intense, whatever she's complaining about. And so we come back with
What we do is we come back with information to try to talk her out of being mad. But that's just our desperate strategy to get her to stop being upset with us so that our anxiety goes down within us. Well, what if you could tame that? What would be possible in your life? And we do that through embodiment practice. I we do it lots of ways, but the primary one is through embodiment practice. And here's what that is. These are practices that are designed to take some of your awareness and turn it
away from your thinking strategizing mind that's trying to get you out of trouble. Turn it away from the thinking mind and into some physical sensation in the body. I'm usually telling guys the specific sensation to focus on. Because when you bring some of your awareness into your physicality, you actually come out of the thinking mind and more into this moment of what's actually happening.
When you're focused on your thinking mind, you're just living in a thought world. And all thoughts are about either the future or the past. They're never about now. The only thing that's now is experience. And so when you put your awareness on physical sensation, well, guess what? That only happens right in the now. And so it just kind of pulls you into the here and now, into the present moment more reliably, I guess you could say.
GS Youngblood (09:27.906)
And when you do that, start to be able to see what's actually happening instead of the of the amplified fears that a lot of us will live with. And so when you do that, you become more present, you become more still, you have a little bit more spaciousness inside of you, and then as I said before, then you can live out of choice and intention rather than wounding or habituation or self-protection.
So that's why I have guys do these practices, these embodiment practices, and it's a daily thing. You do it on a daily basis. And as you're experiencing, Jake, it starts to build. Just like training for a marathon, it starts to build on itself. And suddenly you notice new capabilities within you, and that's a really good feeling.
Jake Kastleman (10:11.029)
And one of the things I work with men on is emotional awareness in particular, emotional mindfulness in this, essentially knowing the what and the why behind what I'm feeling. And so that's more like a psychological focus, right? You're bringing a focus to the body and really connecting thought and feeling into the body and bringing that presence, which is just, I think it's beautiful. It's powerful. I want to practice it more.
GS Youngblood (10:26.412)
Thank you.
GS Youngblood (10:40.131)
care.
Jake Kastleman (10:40.989)
In your view, one of the things I've debated on sometimes as I work with men on emotional mindfulness is, which is just, it's crucial, it's central to addiction recovery. Cause if I can't do that well, if I can't manage my emotions and understand them and feel compassion for myself, then I'm gonna escape all the time, right? So one of the things that I debate on is, I think that so much of the importance is,
GS Youngblood (11:01.006)
Thank
Jake Kastleman (11:08.679)
surrounding the awareness, if I can come deeply in touch with what I'm feeling and be present with it, that's really the main thing rather than so much, here's what I'm gonna do to change the situation or here's how I'm going to fix things. In your view, what is that balance between the awareness piece and how important that is versus here's how I'm going to shift or plan or do something different when it comes to something like.
GS Youngblood (11:34.382)
Yeah.
Jake Kastleman (11:36.885)
your wife's angry at you or your partner's pissed off and you're charged, right?
GS Youngblood (11:39.522)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we men, we try to intellectualize everything. So feeling comes in. Our coping mechanisms immediately squash it down and then we try to intellectualize it. And then that's why we have these fights with our women so much is because we try to intellectualize the feeling. And then she's like, what? Like, no, it doesn't land for her. It actually feels very painful for her is when we intellectualize things. So what I say is I say men,
Learn to feel these things deeply and then practice the skill of being able to put some words to it. But you do that in a very masculine fashion. You're very succinct. You're to the point. You say, when this happens, this is what I'm feeling. You're able to name these things. And then after you've felt it and named it, then your coping mechanisms can kick in. That's fine. It's like when you say that X, when you say X, I feel really sad and hurt.
But I can bear that. I can bear that. Because you allowed yourself to feel it and in doing that it's going to then move through you. problem is what we normally do is something maybe hurts us and we're like, no, it's fine. It's fine. Yeah. And then we just internalize it. And then it actually runs us from the inside because maybe we have a little resentment towards our wife and then we hold onto it for 10 years because of one thing that she said that we denied actually hurt us.
It's, you know, gotta not let the coping mechanisms come in before. You just allow yourself to deeply, viscerally feel, to name it. Maybe you have a request or a boundary around it. Like, you you made that joke about my career at the dinner party. I was really hurt. And I wanna be in a relationship where we don't bad mouth each other in front of other people. We got each other's back. I'm serious about this baby. That doesn't work for me to...
to feel like that's okay between us. can you and I agree that we're not gonna do that to each other? We're gonna have each other's back and not shit talk each other. So you might be setting boundaries or making requests, but after that, you're not dripping that on everybody else. Like I need you to change so that I feel better. I'm gonna name it, I'm gonna feel it, I'm gonna name it, I might make a request or boundary, but I don't need the rest of the world to change for me to feel okay.
GS Youngblood (13:58.966)
So anyway, that's I think the biggest difference that I'm trying to teach men, how to really feel their emotions but contain their emotions as well.
Jake Kastleman (14:09.233)
It's such a powerful concept. I think that our go-to's often and what I work with clients on is mostly anger or escapism, right? That's like for men, it's like either I'm pissed off or I'm shut down, right? Either I'm gonna get ticked or I'm going to just go quiet and go off and escape to my own whatever behaviors, et cetera, to deal with it. And yeah.
GS Youngblood (14:25.996)
Yeah, true.
GS Youngblood (14:34.168)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (14:38.165)
think that's very powerful. wondered this, so we talked about respond versus react. So there's two other points in the masculine blueprint. One of them is to provide structure. And I'm actually curious to know more about this. Talk more about what that means.
GS Youngblood (14:54.978)
Yeah, you know provide structure is about leadership in the relationship and it doesn't mean you're the only leader It's not a zero-sum game where you're a leader or a follower, but you bring more leadership than than you are now and what we're talking about is it's a man that first and foremost has a lot of inner clarity about what he thinks needs to happen and you really you can't lead anybody else in in any endeavor unless you actually have inner clarity and you know, what is your
deeper wisdom tell you that not only that you need and want and what your boundaries and preferences are, but also just what the moment calls for based on the greater good. A man that is providing this kind of leadership has that inner clarity. And then from that inner clarity, he's able to provide it externally in the form of directionality or decision making or structure, not necessarily the what you're going to do, but how you're going to do it.
and you become an ordering force for your life and the lives of those around you. It's not about being in control, that's very different. This is about leadership that you offer as a gift to the people that are close to you and people that rely on you. Unfortunately, because of the prevalence of Nice Guy Syndrome, there's not a lot of leadership in many relationships, at least not from him. Plenty of it from her, because she's going to step in and fill that vacuum if you don't. So...
guys who are quote unquote nice guys, they're not having a lot of their inner clarity. Their awareness is turned outwards, looking at everybody else as to what the safe thing to do is. But what I want them to do is turn that radar partially inward and see what you need, what you think is the right thing, what does your deeper wisdom call for. That's leadership. That's what relational leadership is about. And I want to add one thing. A big part of...
of this leadership is attunement to your partner. So it's not about you just roll in and like, okay, here's what we're doing. You actually know your partner really well. You know her needs and preferences and boundaries so that the leadership you offer doesn't just stomp all over those such that you barely have gotten your idea out of your head and she's like, that's totally not gonna work for me. How could you not know that? And you avoid that by knowing your partner really well and attuning to her and folding that into your leadership from the beginning.
GS Youngblood (17:18.082)
So those are a number of thoughts around leadership in the relationship.
Jake Kastleman (17:23.463)
You've said three different things that interest me a lot. One is how we actually find this inner clarity. Another is this nice guy stuff. And the third one I've forgotten in this moment, but let's talk about nice guy syndrome. Cause when I actually read this on your site and in your book, I know that this can easily be.
mistaken for, I'm not supposed to be nicer. It's like, I'm going to puff up and be this cool guy or I got to be, you know, really confident. What is the difference between, well, yeah, let's, let's talk about the difference between being kind or however you might phrase it versus being a nice guy and why that's damaging.
GS Youngblood (18:07.22)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, when you're a nice guy, you're secretly but frantically trying to assess what the other person wants for them to be happy, and then you're going to give it to them. And you might pretend that it was your idea to begin with, or you might not, or you just collapse and be like, whatever you want. Either way, there's a franticness, because you feel unsafe inside.
Being kind is different. Being kind is about being attuned to others and folding in what's important for them as well because they're an equal part of this equation. It's not just all about you. That's what somebody who's kind does. Somebody who's kind is wise enough to understand their impact on others and generally strives, as a good human being, strives not to be an asshole, you know, or strives to not...
knowingly do things that really are going to impact your loved ones in a negative way. Unless you have to. Sometimes that's inevitable and then you've to be able to stick to your guns. outside of that, you're not just carelessly harming others and their interests because you don't give a hoot. That's what kindness is about. So there's a huge difference. One's driven by attunement. The other is driven by anxiety and fear and desperation.
Jake Kastleman (19:29.451)
And the other thing that I was thinking about is this inner clarity, right? I know that out of the men who listen to my podcast, because I've been in their shoes in the past, I remember how challenging it was for me to have a sense of inner clarity because I felt like such a, like a victim to my inner whims, right? Of what I wanted.
in the moment and my addictions and things that seem to really rule my internal life. How can men find the center clarity? That's a big question that I've just asked, but maybe what are your reflections on what you've seen as far as how men find that and actually gain access to that inner wisdom?
GS Youngblood (20:00.366)
Mm-mm.
GS Youngblood (20:18.285)
Yeah.
Well, a lot of it is about eradicating your anxiety. know, in some ways it's almost that easy. When you are not anxious, you are much more clear headed and you know what you want. Your inner wisdom, if you haven't beaten it down into a pulp over your entire lifetime, if there's any of it left, your inner wisdom in the spaciousness of no anxiety, it starts to grow back like little shoots of
green plants, you know, they're small at first, but if you treat them right, they grow. so your inner wisdom is there. You just, have to get rid of the anxiety. That's the beautiful thing. It's not about, you got to go get it. It's about taking away what shouldn't be there. And that's the anxiety. That's, that's a big one. And I think the other piece of that is
It's kind of like a mantra that I have men do occasionally. It's like, you've got to come to believe that your needs matter. Your opinion matters. Your viewpoint matters. so many of us have, we've beaten ourselves down or allowed ourselves to be beaten down into believing that we don't have anything to add and that what we want doesn't matter and then we don't speak our needs. What you want matters.
And the more you believe that, the more clarity you'll start to see yourself have.
Jake Kastleman (21:44.928)
And it's so interesting because I reflect back on my own life and this shift or this transformation that I've both gone through and I'm still going through of understanding exactly what you're saying, which is I think I had this perception in the past that if I pursue what I want or desire, that's selfish, right? It's me being self-centered where I think...
GS Youngblood (22:06.692)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (22:11.195)
you're talking about a balance of again, that attunement with what others needs are and what's important to them in connection and collaboration with what I want and that my needs matter. And it's interesting in my own life, I've suffered a great deal of grief and feelings of fear and shame that were that were covered over by this self criticism of
GS Youngblood (22:34.764)
Mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (22:40.479)
Well, don't be weak. stop thinking that you're going through all these hard things. That inner critic that I had inside telling me, you're, get over yourself. Like show up more selflessly. Stop letting all this stuff bother you. And I think a lot of us have this voice inside that invalidates our emotions and our feelings. I find that fascinating that, you know, you're saying this is a key.
GS Youngblood (22:57.165)
Hmm.
Jake Kastleman (23:09.035)
to actually being good and caring in a relationship is to see that my needs matter. Yeah.
GS Youngblood (23:17.694)
Yeah, it's so important for men to understand that. I mean, we get accused of being selfish and sometimes we are, but it's like we can be selfish and sort of, you know, ignore our own needs. It's a weird combination and unfortunately our women see this probably more than they see this, but yeah, sometimes we have to learn to be more selfish in ways that we're not yet and that is around our emotional needs.
Jake Kastleman (23:44.683)
So let's talk about this last part of the Masculine Blueprint, Create Safety.
GS Youngblood (23:52.268)
Now, yeah, in general I'm talking about physical, financial, and emotional safety. In this book I talk mostly about emotional safety. I'll probably talk about the other ones in a sequel. But so we're talking about emotional safety and I don't know of any bigger determinant to a woman's openness with her man than how safe and trusting she feels and connected she feels to him. So I'm always telling men, don't.
Don't smirk at this thing called emotional connection because it's the thing that will get you everything that you want. Everything that you want in relationship is right on the other side of a strong emotional connection with your woman. And like me, 17 years ago now at this point, lot of men don't know what that means. They don't even know what emotional connection looks like. They sure as heck don't know how to build it. And that's one of the things I do in my boot camp, my relationship repair boot camp program.
with guys is part of it is learning to master these dynamics of how to build emotional connection with a woman. So some very definitive things that you can do to build connection with her that they're not easy but they're also not super complicated. So I work on that with guys. And a lot of it has to do with showing yourself at a deeper level and also receiving her at a deeper level instead of on this kind of informational level. There's more depth to what you're sharing with her.
So that's what I say to guys men put the time in to learn how to build emotional connection and actually go do it
Jake Kastleman (25:28.575)
Yeah, and one of the things that I reflect on as you say that GS is again, going back to that kind of these protective strategies we can have inside, because I think about this in an IFS or a parts work standpoint all the time of you have these protector parts that as men so often our go-to is that anger, right? And I've found that for me in my own life and then teaching others to do this of the anger is secondary.
GS Youngblood (25:42.83)
Mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (25:58.624)
Like if you're trying to emotionally connect with somebody and be vulnerable, if you're at the status of anger, that doesn't get you very deep into actually what's important to you and what you're really feeling underneath the surface. The anger is the control factor that I gotta fix this, I gotta change this, this isn't right and so I need to make it different. And really what's underneath, I loved what you said about kind of these genuine feelings.
Right? The fear or here's what hurt for me. I think that we can be so as men, can easily be prone to, well, it doesn't hurt me. I'm not nothing hurts me. All right. That's that. Yeah. The toxic masculinity, right? As you're as you're saying. In fact, I think we could even associate that with things like stoicism. I know I used to do that. I got to be stoic. Right. But.
GS Youngblood (26:32.086)
Mm-hmm.
GS Youngblood (26:40.696)
I'm fine. Yeah.
GS Youngblood (26:47.235)
Yeah.
Jake Kastleman (26:56.093)
In fact, stoicism, I went and read meditations by Marcus Aurelius and I was like, he doesn't say anything like that at all. It's not about not showing emotion. It's actually about caring very deeply and so much so about the good of the world and others to the point where you are willing to show up with strength, right? At least that's all the messages I took. But yeah, any thoughts that you have about that?
GS Youngblood (27:03.054)
Yeah.
GS Youngblood (27:14.392)
Mm-hmm.
GS Youngblood (27:21.762)
Yeah, I totally agree. That's a big lesson I learned over my growth arc. Stoicism is great for the first part of interacting where you don't overreact, but then you got to step out of your stone fortress and actually engage with your woman. so, yeah, there's a lot of misconceptions around stoicism and you got to stay engaged. That's what your woman wants. She wants your engagement.
And that's why so many of our women are pissed off at us because we do get stony or withdrawn and we think that's what the moment calls for. So yeah, they want our engagement. They want us to feel them more deeply. I think that's something that guys get wrong a lot. Obviously, they don't want us to fix. I think guys know that women don't want us to fix them, but we keep doing it. And we don't know what the alternative is. But the alternative is they want to feel you feeling her. They want to feel you feeling her.
Jake Kastleman (28:12.949)
Yes. Yep.
Jake Kastleman (28:20.063)
Hmm.
GS Youngblood (28:20.27)
Now there's more to it than that, there is an action phase, but let that come later. We always talk about feelings first, facts later. Like join her in the feelings first, then get to the facts later and you'll be way more successful.
Jake Kastleman (28:33.301)
of that, feelings first, facts later, that's good. That's good. Well, and so one of the things that my mind is on is how much conflict in a relationship can really play into relapse and addiction for men. A lot of the men that I work with, and this was this way for myself as well. I wondered if you could talk about this concept of the masculine to feminine polarity.
GS Youngblood (28:36.376)
Yeah.
Jake Kastleman (29:03.115)
that can go on and kind of a couple of dysfunctional dynamics, which we've already talked about a couple, but the common dysfunctional dynamics that men find themselves in and maybe how to come out of that dysfunction between the feminine to masculine.
GS Youngblood (29:22.67)
Yeah, let me answer the question of what do we mean by this masculine feminine polarity Yeah, yeah, mean and let's let's not get worked up about gender or anything like that Let's just think of these as energies. We we all have a mix of masculine feminine. So anybody that's wanting to get worked up no need
Jake Kastleman (29:29.131)
Good call. Yeah, yeah.
Jake Kastleman (29:43.083)
Good, I'm glad you clarified.
GS Youngblood (29:44.91)
Yeah, relationships work better when there's when there's a directive energy and a receptive energy You know and and those are the those are two other terms that we can use And this concept of masculine feminine is not new. You know you've got the whole Shiva Shakti that goes back hundreds or thousands of years I actually don't know which but Because when you have two people that are trying to lead in the well actually let me let me say this
We're talking about the domain of intimacy, of love, of romance, of sexuality, of partnership. We're not talking about doing the laundry. So doing the laundry, doesn't matter. mean, you everybody's in their masculine, we're just getting shit done. We go to work, we're getting shit done. Clean the kitchen, we're getting shit done. But in the intimacy, the romance, the love, the sexuality, that's what we're talking about here. And it works better when you have a lead and a follow. there's a little, you know, it could be a power dynamic or...
Or just maybe I'll more innocuously call it a call it lead follow That's what creates the juice when one asserts and one submits and and again Let's not let's not over emphasize these terms about you know, assert and submit. It's not it's play. It's it's consensual play Nothing of this is is compulsive. It's all consensual and and so Take that now take that out of the bedroom
If you as a man aren't bringing any masculine leadership to the relationship, she's gonna start to get cranky, critical, less interested in sexuality, as a general rule. We're stereotyping, but that covers our two sigma and 80 % on the bell curve. And so you're a guy that has no opinion. You're like a nice guy, and you really have no opinion. Whatever you want, honey. Happy wife, happy life, whatever you want, honey. At first for her, she's like, this guy's easy to be with. And then about a year in, she's like, who are you? Is there something in there? Do you have opinions about anything? And so men that don't lead, men who want to be considered masculine but don't lead, starts to create a lot of that irritability. I'm saying this to your audience, men, if you're not bringing leadership in certain areas into your life, if you're making her make all the decisions on everything because you think you're just an easygoing guy, you are burdening her and you're going to observe.
GS Youngblood (32:07.478)
more irritability, more criticism, and less interest in sexuality. Just guarantee it. Full stop. Same goes for emotional safety. If you're not creating emotional safety for her and emotional connection with her, irritability, criticism, lack of interest in sexuality and closeness. So all those problems that you thought were about kind of like the fight of the day actually in many cases can be a result of a more underlying lack of your masculine leadership as
Jake Kastleman (32:14.685)
Mm-hmm.
GS Youngblood (32:36.84)
as defined by the blueprint. So I know it worked for me. A lot of the issues that I had in my marriage, my first marriage, don't crop up now. Yeah, because I have a different partner, but it's also because I'm very different and I'm bringing much more to the table than I used to be. So a lot of your relationship problems, you don't know, are actually related to lack of masculine leadership. And when you start to address that, suddenly those problems start to magically go away.
Jake Kastleman (33:06.015)
Yeah, I think this, again, this getting in touch with your masculine core and being very, very conscious of that, very directive with it in a compassionate, kind, strong, resilient way. I think there's just so many things that, again, we as men can deal with in our relationships that are fueling things like pornography addiction, just because of the tension that we feel, the dissonance that we feel between.
Here's the life that I want, the relationship that I want, and I don't have it. And there's a real grief that comes along with that for a lot of guys.
GS Youngblood (33:41.709)
Yeah.
Totally, and imagine it, you're dealing with your woman but you're not bringing leadership and having for years so she's just kind of chronically cranky at you, then that night you have a choice. I can go deal with my chronically cranky woman or I can go into this fantasy land where the woman is always happy with you and spreads her legs. Of course these guys are to do that because they're too scared to actually create a better relationship over here. So to the men out there, men stop escaping.
Jake Kastleman (34:01.941)
Right? Yeah.
GS Youngblood (34:12.864)
Stop escaping. get it, but stop escaping and you can create a better dynamic with your real life woman and then she's going to be the wild sexual loving partner that you're dreaming about, not this fantasy land on a screen.
Jake Kastleman (34:26.251)
Yeah, yeah, it's powerful. It's powerful. a lot of different layers for men to work through. And this is one of them. These relational layers are very important. One of the things that I was curious about, GS, and I've looked into this a bit online today. I was on your social media account a while back. think it was, it's on your site, Instagram, I think, TikTok maybe. Dark masculinity.
GS Youngblood (34:34.402)
and wait.
GS Youngblood (34:48.718)
Mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (34:53.371)
I looked that up and I was like, what does that mean? When I first saw it, was like, GS, what are you talking about here, man? Some weird stuff. And then I looked into it a bit. And actually, again, I often take things when it comes to a psychological perspective back to IFS or parts work. It made me think of, you said the shadow side. And then I was like, okay, I see the wisdom in this. Do you wanna talk about just...
GS Youngblood (34:59.736)
Yeah.
Jake Kastleman (35:20.671)
This can easily be misconstrued. think it's very important though. What is this concept of dark masculinity? Why can it kind of help a man get into a better emotional state? So that's going to help with addiction recovery or a better positive relationship with his wife or partner.
GS Youngblood (35:39.612)
Yeah, we're let's just call it what it is we're talking about dark sexual energy and and
Jake Kastleman (35:44.523)
Okay. Well, I talk with men all day who have that. We all have it inside, of course.
GS Youngblood (35:50.894)
Yeah, well there's and there's let's just call that out there's a difference between the darkness that you hide and Pretend to her to your wife that you're just like a normal dude And then there's the darkness that you you guys choose to play with together and you bring it to the table That's very different and we don't want guys hiding in the shadows hiding their darkness around sexuality We want them coming forth to their woman and finding a modality that works for the two of them and supports them
Jake Kastleman (35:58.252)
Mm.
Jake Kastleman (36:06.955)
Hmm.
GS Youngblood (36:18.328)
play an adventure in the realm of sexuality. so I want to draw a not a contrast, but I want to highlight both the dark and the light. So the dark in sexuality is there's an implied power differential. Now it's a consensual power differential. I'm not talking about anything here that doesn't have consent. If there's no consent, then I'm not talking, that's not what I'm talking about. Talking about a partnership of consensual adults who are
generally a long-standing couple is what I like to say, who have agreed to play a little bit with power dynamics. So there's a strong leadership that's not nicey-nice. And it's edgy. And by itself, this can actually lead to bad things by itself. So we always want the dark, in our responsible model here, we want the dark to be governed by the light. The light is attunement, it's care.
It's love, it's protection. Those are all the light. Okay? So you gotta have the dark and the light. And my contention is that most women are dying from this from their partner. I mean, absent other factors, but most women are dying for this combination of dark and light. Not all the time, but sometimes. Because if you get all dark, it gets old because she doesn't feel safe, protected, or heart-connected. If you do all light, it gets old because you feel like a nice guy and she doesn't get us turned on.
Jake Kastleman (37:17.419)
Hmm.
GS Youngblood (37:43.758)
because you just seem like kind of a nice guy in sexuality. So it's that combination of dark and light. so dark is a very strong lead. It's mischievous. It's a little edgy. feels, it can feel a little dangerous.
And again, as long as she knows that he's governed by the light and his way of being is also governed by the light. even while he's a little edgy with her, he's attuned to her, he's protecting her, he's caring for her, he's heart connected to her. And when you bring those together, that creates that fun but edgy and interesting sexual consensual play that I think both men and women want at times.
So that's just some of my initial comments. I'll pause there to see how that lands for you.
Jake Kastleman (38:32.915)
It's so funny because I've got my Christian parts of me just like acting up so furiously right now that are like, G s this is some dangerous, weird stuff, man. I can't, I can't get down with it. But I also, I think that I'm also able to see the, wisdom in it too. And I think some of the balance that you're talking about and some things that stretch some of my perceptions with that very, very conservative kind of background.
Right. So still, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.
GS Youngblood (39:02.892)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I would I would Jake Jake I'll just say this and this could either be rhetorical or not. I'll leave it to you but scrutinize which of your Christian values feel in opposition to that, know, like get really clear Like what is it what I you know, you know your Christian values And what is it specifically? I'm gonna leave this rhetorically for now and I would say anybody who who
who follow strong Christian values should get clear on that for themselves instead of the assumption like, it doesn't feel right, but I'm not sure. And so, hmm, I'm paralyzed now. Like actually sit down. what, it'd be an interesting thought experiment to see where there's fit and where there's contravention.
Jake Kastleman (39:50.72)
Fascinating. So one of the questions that's come up for me a few different times in our conversation, GS, and that I'm really curious about is your background. You had a previous marriage, you got divorced, that was years ago. Now you're in a new partnership, right, with a wonderful woman. I assume a wonderful woman. tell me about that you have a deep...
personal story with what led you to do the work you're doing and it's powerful work. Tell us about that story and what you were going through years ago.
GS Youngblood (40:28.076)
Yeah, man, didn't, this was, you I got married in 2000, 2000 actually, and it was a, she was very, is a very strong woman, amazing in so many ways, and I didn't have a sense of who I was, I didn't have any connection to my emotions, I didn't have any connection to my insecurities.
And so I didn't know how to deal with emotions and insecurities and I sure as heck didn't know how to deal with her. And when she got fired up. so, and then the longer that went on with me not dealing with my emotions and insecurities, then it just makes her more fired up and harder to deal with. And so, you know, by the end of that 10 year marriage, I had allowed myself to become very emasculated. And was really just trying to avoid trouble rather than actually connecting with my woman or being my own self.
Jake Kastleman (40:54.827)
Mm-hmm.
GS Youngblood (41:24.142)
So, needless to say, that leads to divorce. I would say, guys, if this situation sounds familiar and you don't do anything about it, that's where you're headed because a woman is not going to stick around forever if you're not bringing any kind of leadership, if you're not creating emotional safety for her, and if you're not grounded. The feminine nervous system at some point will absolutely tire of that and not want to be in relationship. So, you've got to deal with these things now, and unfortunately I didn't.
The 17 years since then have been my journey to find a better way to codify it, to share it with men so they have the resources that I didn't have. Because I didn't have any resources back then. I had nobody. My father couldn't show me these things. My friends hadn't been through it. And it wasn't until I got David Data's book that I was like, oh, wow, masculine, feminine polarity. I had no idea what this was.
So David's book really kicked that off for me. And then I studied with David for a while and then some of David's disciples. And I was on my, I've been on my own learning path for the last 17 years. And you know, I hope I am for the rest of my life. And then in parallel to that, as you mentioned, I've been in relationship for the last 11 years with a very strong woman. She's got a strong feminine and a strong masculine. She's you know, masculine from her dad and the feminine from her mom.
Jake Kastleman (42:40.875)
Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
GS Youngblood (42:46.336)
So she's, she, my long time relationship with her has been the practice space to learn what opens her up, my partner up, what creates more closeness, what creates all the things that I'm looking for. Closeness and fun and adventure and sexuality together. What brings more of that and what brings less of it? And so it's, you know, I've been in the laboratory this whole time in parallel to being on a learning path, so.
I can tell you that everything I write about and talk about, I've probably been through it myself. mean, more than likely I've been through that exact situation myself and had to figure out what served the greater good for the two of us, what served the greater love between the two of us. So that's been my journey and I'm really, I wake up every day super excited to help guys find a better way in their relationship, find themselves really.
is really what it's about. it's heartwarming work, very rewarding.
Jake Kastleman (43:48.108)
Well, that what you're talking about sounds a lot like my wife, the strong masculine and feminine ends. And yeah, it's very personally reminiscent for me. think when you talk about this disconnection from your own insecurities that you used to go through, your own fears and your feelings. I remember years ago, and I'm a religious and spiritual person.
GS Youngblood (44:06.86)
Yeah.
GS Youngblood (44:15.412)
Mm-mm.
Jake Kastleman (44:15.787)
said a prayer, I was praying to God and I was saying, I wanna be a better man. You know, what's kind of the next step for me? And I was contemplating that meditating on it. And I had this answer come to me, which was, you gotta let go of your anger. Or I heard in my mind, you gotta give me your anger. And at the time I was like, what anger?
GS Youngblood (44:34.126)
Mm-hmm.
GS Youngblood (44:38.967)
I'm not angry.
Jake Kastleman (44:41.739)
It's like, what are you talking about? Why am I getting that as an inclination here? And over the next few weeks, I really started to become deeply aware of the fact that I was angry all of the time. It's like, I told someone this a while back, they said, like Bruce Banner, like, know, he says, my secret is I'm always angry, right? That-
GS Youngblood (44:57.183)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
GS Youngblood (45:02.766)
.
Jake Kastleman (45:06.665)
That was really my life. Like I think from the time I was a kid all the way up into my twenties and I was just always angry under the surface. And what I found when I started to explore that was again, it wasn't the anger that was the primary problem. It was the fear that I was constantly feeling. I'm not enough.
GS Youngblood (45:30.53)
Mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (45:32.969)
I need to be better. I've got these loaded expectations of myself and everything I've got to be and all the people I've got to save and the things I got to fix. And it was just this constant weight, constant. Yeah. So.
GS Youngblood (45:40.706)
Mm-hmm.
GS Youngblood (45:47.094)
Yeah, I've been there, been there and I...
The thing that I had to do is get back in touch with my basic goodness. It's like I know I'm a good person, but then you have that voice that's like, no, you're not. Here's why. And yeah, I went through that process of just getting back in touch with believing that I'm basically good.
Jake Kastleman (46:00.927)
Yeah. Yeah.
Jake Kastleman (46:14.653)
Mm-hmm. It reminds me, did you see Inside Out 2 came out last year? No. you, Kay, it's one that you should watch. I know that it's a cartoon. don't, you probably watch cartoons. I don't know, your kids are older now, much older now. But I, it was actually when it came out, it hit the top number one animated film of all time as far as box office sales.
GS Youngblood (46:19.406)
No, I didn't. My kids are too old to see movies like that.
Jake Kastleman (46:43.723)
It's amazing. it's, it really lays out the mind very, very well. In fact, the people who created it, they were psychologists that know parts work in IFS deep in depth. Yeah, it is. And so I was amazed by, they talk about this core of Riley, right? He's the main character. And at her core is this belief, I'm a good person. And
GS Youngblood (46:56.418)
Yeah, it's totally parts work.
GS Youngblood (47:12.174)
Mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (47:13.351)
in the movie, spoiler alert for the, but look, it's been like a year. In the movie, essentially that gets changed to I'm not good enough. And that is the underlying belief that fuels all of her fear and anxiety and all the crazy things that she's doing to try to manage her problems. It's interesting to me that you say that's at the core in so many ways is you came in touch with your goodness again.
GS Youngblood (47:28.654)
you
Jake Kastleman (47:43.061)
to believe that ultimately you're a good person with all flaws and mistakes and all that stuff, but I'm fundamentally a good person. It's very powerful.
GS Youngblood (47:43.234)
Hmm.
GS Youngblood (47:50.252)
Yeah. Yeah. And I think anybody that's interested in going deeper and read The Shame That Binds You, the book The Shame That Binds You, he talks a lot about the difference between regular shame and toxic shame. And it's like, I'm a good person. Yeah, I did some stupid stuff, but I am a good person. And I proved that a lot versus, as you, I'm sure you know this, it's like, my God, I'm so flawed. I did this stupid thing. And it's just more evidence that I'm a doofus. That's the big difference.
Is it the behavior or is it the person?
Jake Kastleman (48:23.081)
Yeah, exactly. one of the things I was, so something I've been going through lately is I'll wake up later than I mean to. is just some stupid bad habit I've gotten into lately and I'm trying to change it because I was so good at getting up same time every day. so this is something I'm trying to manage right now through different various strategies. But I was feeling this shame about that. Got this inner critic, right? That's just like, man, you look
GS Youngblood (48:41.324)
Mm-hmm.
Jake Kastleman (48:52.989)
Gosh, why can't you just get up on time, keep your word to yourself and now you've messed up and look how many things you screwed up and all the opportunities you won't get now and you gotta be less lazy. All right, I just got that inner critic just going and I'm just trying to step back and observe and be mindful of, this inner critic is talking to me and he's trying to motivate me, he's trying to make me better. But ultimately, that when we listen to that critic and we...
GS Youngblood (49:09.336)
Yeah.
Jake Kastleman (49:21.013)
we identify with it, it just makes things so much worse, right? It fuels the problem. But I actually came in touch with, again, this goes back to this mindfulness and this presence. For you, it's, you know, you talk about the somatic end of it, which I need to practice more, but I came in touch with, instead of getting so caught up in the judgment, I got down to the shame.
GS Youngblood (49:24.302)
feels a problem.
Jake Kastleman (49:48.552)
and this belief of like, I'm not good enough. And I just stayed present with it rather than trying to hide from it or avoid it or skirt around it is just stayed present. Here's what I'm experiencing and feeling. And it was so interesting that really was then then became a great motivator for me where I've improved in that area over the last week. And it was actually very positive for me. But it took me
GS Youngblood (49:57.752)
Yeah, love it.
Jake Kastleman (50:17.835)
actually taking time to feel what I was feeling. Yeah.
GS Youngblood (50:21.41)
Yeah, totally. Yeah, that's the only way moves through us is if we allow ourselves to feel it. Some of the work that I do with the men in the relationship repair boot camp is that exactly. Learning just to feel these things and then they can just pass through us rather than getting stuck. So, love that you're experiencing.
Jake Kastleman (50:36.491)
Yeah. Well, awesome, GS. Well, anything we haven't covered today that you feel is particularly important for men either in recovery or who are trying to make their relationships better.
GS Youngblood (50:50.102)
Yeah, I I would go bigger picture, I think, and just tell men that there's a number out there and that number is the number of minutes you have left on this earth. And how you want to spend those? You want to spend them stuck in a really dysfunctional relationship or do you want to step up and do the work to become bigger than the dysfunction, to become bigger than her moods, to become bigger than your own?
Jake Kastleman (51:02.795)
Hmm.
GS Youngblood (51:17.646)
insecurities and that voice that you know you and I just talked about Jake You know you can make that choice or you can not it's really up to you But your time is limited and so do something different I think that's the message I want to give guys possible that something different is possible I didn't think it was when I was going through that but now I do know that and I try to teach it as best I can to men things can be different if you're really willing to put in the time That's what I would leave the guy
Jake Kastleman (51:44.395)
Love that. I really appreciate your time, Gia. Such an awesome, awesome conversation. And where do people find you if they want to get help, be part of the bootcamp, et cetera? What can, what do you offer?
GS Youngblood (51:57.42)
Yeah, if want to just get a hit of me in various videos and information, just go to my Instagram, gsyoungbloodmir, or YouTube. Both of them have lots of content of me talking about various topics. And if you want to find out about the work itself and doing it with me, then go to my website, gsyoungblood.com. And the thing that I'm excited most about is the boot camp. It's a three-month program that you do with a cohort of 12 men.
And it's been my most rewarding program yet. The guys really get a lot out of it. And we just sold out our seventh one, so we're doing something right. Or you can do one-on-one coaching, or we do every year in February, we do a workshop in Mexico. Check it out all on the website and see if there's something that appeals.
Jake Kastleman (52:44.395)
Love it. Well, you're doing awesome work, GS, helping a lot of guys and appreciate you coming on. It's a privilege.
GS Youngblood (52:50.562)
Thanks Jake, love the work that you're doing with men as well to free them from these addictions.
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